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Poster: mklsgl Date: Dec 1, 2013 8:33am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Flubbed Lyrics

Has any song ever escaped being vocally flubbed in its history?

Me & My Uncle? Mama Tried? Don't Ease?


Welnick tunes do not count.

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Poster: He Live's Date: Dec 1, 2013 9:39am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Flubbed Lyrics

the more interesting question is What is the most flubbed song in the GD history.

i would have to go with US BLUES. jerry completely lost the plot on this most of the time.... especially in the final years.

Highgate II, what a disastrous version. JERRY = MIA.

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Poster: RBNW....new and improved! Date: Dec 1, 2013 9:59am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Flubbed Lyrics

without researching, for some reason 2 come to mind

Ramble On Rose and Jack Straw

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Poster: ColdRain108 Date: Dec 2, 2013 2:49pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Flubbed Lyrics

Shakedown. Some brutal lyrical mumblings occur, especially to the opening line.

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Poster: Pig Street ! Date: Dec 1, 2013 10:00am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Flubbed Lyrics

Truckin'....Bobby never seemed to get it right!

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Poster: Reade Date: Dec 1, 2013 6:14pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Flubbed Lyrics

Phil is absolutely porked out in this photo.

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Poster: Pig Street ! Date: Dec 2, 2013 5:52am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Flubbed Lyrics

1)Heineken
2) just a thought
3) classic

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Dec 2, 2013 9:38am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Flubbed Lyrics

How about a spatial-temporal flub?

One of the funnier "flubs" I've run across during The 1984 Project.

6/24/84 - Saratoga Performing Arts Center

http://archive.org/details/gd1984-06-24.sbd.miller.27449.sbeok.flac16

Bobby delivers a new twist on his classic line in New Minglewood Blues - “And it’s tea right here in...wherever it is we are.”

I thought it was funny.....

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Dec 3, 2013 8:22am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Flubbed Lyrics

Off the top of my head I'd say "Crazy Fingers" was butchered just about every time, especially post-1976, but I'd bet that finding a totally clean version of "Loose Lucy" is near impossible. Especially in the early years Jer almost always forgot the "she's my yo yo i'm her string" line in the first verse. Brutal.

Not to mention Fire on the Mountain, which, given that it only had 3 verses and started out with just 2, is pretty inexcusable.

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Dec 5, 2013 7:24pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Flubbed Lyrics

There's a show from Cleveland (area) where Bob sings "them Philly phillies start looking good ............. (then, apologetically) _Cleveland_ philles."

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffMonte B Cowboy Date: Dec 1, 2013 12:01pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Flubbed Lyrics

No! But maybe it was Pigpen who did the least amount of flubbing?

and, hey... don't be impeaching too many of my cowboy songs, okay? And what about inflections, flubbed or otherwise? In some of those '73 MAMUs Bobby sings that he shoots the guy he never saw, or sometimes, he cracks him with a bottle in the jaw, and then he shoots two more guys... it's something like that - even I'm confused, so I'll just smoke a bowl, and then I'll shoot myself in the foot, lol. I like MAMU. Joni Mitchell did it; Newgrass Revival did it.

Lots of GD's songs have complicated lyrics, but lots of singers have that challenge.

re: lyric-flubs in cowboy songs by lots of singers

Some of these singers played the same songs, while playing in multiple bands that were "similar", at about the same time, same thing as what GD band members did. That can be particularly challenging, especially when the same songs are arranged and sung differently in each band. Then add smoking dope into the situation, and what do we have, flubbed lyrics, that's what.

Here's how Dark Hollow's chorus was sung by Vince Gill and Bluegrass Alliance in Sept 1975
So freight train blow your whistle, carry me farther on down the track...

Vince appears to flub the lyrics by morphing two lines into one, starting at the 1:25 mark:
Dark Hollow mp3
I'd rather be in some Dark Hollow, where the sun don't never shine,
then to be at home alone in some big city in a small room with you on my mind (flubbed)

here's Muleskinner band singing Dark Hollow chorus, which I think is the way most bands sang it
Then blow your whistle freight train, going farther on down the track...

Funny, someone in Muleskinner blows the "big city" Dark Hollow lyrics at the 3:30 mark, lol
1973 Muleskinner video w/ Dawg

When you listen to [older] tapes of bands "live" playing, you'd be surprised how many mistakes are made. Often, you have to listen very carefully to catch them... like I did above. And, you have to be familiar with the material. Most of these are tiny flubs. Very few are huge flubs. GD made just as many tiny flubs as any band. But they are the kings of huge flubs! That's what I was trying to say.

re: Jazz Alley mural's image of Jerry - here's Robert Crumb's mural image of Jerry's roots
musicneverstoppedgiclee2.jpg

This post was modified by Monte B Cowboy on 2013-12-01 20:01:28

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Poster: mklsgl Date: Dec 1, 2013 2:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Flubbed Lyrics

No, Monte B., WIMW (What I meant was) that Me & My Uncle and Mama Tried were two examples that I thought have escaped being flubbed. I would never dare to disturb your cowboy songs!

Is there a flubbed "Corrina"?

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Poster: William Tell Date: Dec 1, 2013 5:44pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Flubbed Lyrics

M&MU was flubbed, as was MT; BIODTL, esp so...all of those have verses in which Bob just mumbles along over at least a line or two.

I actually think the simple songs--if that was your point--suffer from it more than complex ones.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffMonte B Cowboy Date: Dec 1, 2013 7:14pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Flubbed Lyrics

What's on my tapes from '73 are Jer's flubs being like "fuck it, I don't give a shit, I forgot" and he mostly doesn't sing anything. Bobby's flubs are like "duh, what the fuck, I'm a moron" and he cross-connects verses, mumbles them, and looks an idiot. Donna casually makes a tiny-flub in the final Toodeloo chorus as a "new material fuck-up", when she incorrectly repeats it again - and then mutes herself as Jerry correctly goes into his ending solo during the 6-9-73 show. Bobby blows Truckin' lyrics at half the shows I saw in '73 I think, or something close to that. Didn't he flub Sugar Magnolia lyrics sometimes? In comparison, Pigpen appears to be pretty professional, lol. Honestly, in '73 my Deadhead friends and I were already discussing the flubbed lyrics issues. We had the tapes back then. I cannot remember Pigpen's name ever coming up.

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Poster: sydthecat2 Date: Dec 1, 2013 5:53pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Flubbed Lyrics

I was always amazed that Bobby could remember every single word of Desolation Row but regularly screwed up Truckin'.

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Poster: Jack o' Roses Date: Dec 2, 2013 6:32am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Flubbed Lyrics- How Bobby usually nailed Desolation Row

Bobby used to keep a card with the 1st lines of Desolation Row taped to his mic stand (or so he said in '86)p: his ol'time teleprompter

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Poster: RBNW....new and improved! Date: Dec 1, 2013 2:42pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Flubbed Lyrics

actually Corrina was flubbed when it was written.

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Poster: lobster12 Date: Dec 2, 2013 8:38am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Flubbed Lyrics

There's a Maggie's farm from dec 1990 where Vince can't remember the lyrics and sings something like " I can't remember the words". Thought that was always funny

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Poster: Purple Gel Date: Dec 1, 2013 9:08am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Flubbed Lyrics

Slipknot.